Αρχαιοι ελληνικοι πολιτισμοι,απο αρχαιες ελληνικες πολεις οι οποιες βρισκονται διασπαρτες στην λεκανη της μεσογειου και γυρω απο αυτην,φανερωνουν την υπαρξη του ελληνικου στοιχειου στην περιοχη,εδω και χιλιαδες χρονια τωρα. Αυτοι τωρα εχουν καταπατηθη απο τους βαρβαρους,(τουρκοι,σελτζουκοι,κ.λ.π.)οι οποιοι προερχονται απο τα βαθη της ανατολης,και εχουν βγη και στην μεσογειο τωρα,και μαλιστα διεδικουν και αυτη για τα κοιτασματα της,καθιστουν την ηδη βεβαρυμενη περιοχη,σε εμπολεμο πεδιο με αγνωστες συνεπειες και για αυτους.
Ολος ο κοσμος αναρωτιεται και θελει να μαθη που στηριζουν την οικονομια τους και κανουν αυτες τις ενεργειες , καθως οπως φαινετε ολα τα μουσεια της ευρωπης και του κοσμου εχουν αυτα τα ελληνικα στοιχεια,και τα εκθετουν (τα εχουνε πουληση).Και στην ιδια την τουρκια βεβαια τα μουσεια της, εχουν τον ελληνικο πολιτισμο (βλ. Κωνταντινουπολη)με ελληνικες επιγραφες και γραμματα, και τον προβαλουν με σκοπο το κερδος.
Ολο αυτο φανερωνη μια καταπατηση,αλλα αυτο δεν μπορει να ειναι συνεχεια ιδιο.
Η ιστορια αλαζη.
Ισως μαλον να εχουν φθαση στο ζενιθ της ιστοριας τους,
Και τωρα ισως πρεπη σιγα σιγα να επιστρεφουν στα σπιτια τους.
Google Translation.
Ancient Greek civilization, from ancient Greek cities which are scattered in the Mediterranean and around, showed the GREEK ELEMENT in the region, for thousands of years now. That now have been violated by the Barbarians, (Turkey, Seljuks, etc.) Who come from the Far East, and have syn and MEDITERRANEAN now, and even diedikoun and this for the fields, make the already charged area, in war fields with unknown consequences for them.
Everybody wonders and wants to students base their economy and make these actions, as well as see all the museums of Europe and the world have these GREEK elements, and exponentially (the have sold) .And in Turkey itself COURSE its museums, have the GREEK culture (see. Kontantinoupoli) with Greek inscriptions and letters, and view for profit.
All this reveals a breach, but this can not be subsequently same.
The story arrogant.
Perhaps Malone have reached the zenith of their history,
And now maybe you should gradually returning to their homes.
Mysterious Roman God Baffles Experts
by Tia Ghose, Staff Writer
βλεπετε τον μακεδονικο ροδακα στο κατω μερος της εικονας
An unknown Roman god was recently unearthed at a sanctuary in southeast Turkey. The god, who is emerging from a plant, is depicted with both Near Eastern and Roman elements, and may have been a baal, or subdeity, of the temple's major god, Jupiter Dolichenus
Credit: Peter Jülich
View full size image
A sculpture of a mysterious, never-before-seen Roman deity has been unearthed in an ancient temple in Turkey.
The 1st century B.C. relief, of an enigmatic bearded god rising up out of a flower or plant, was discovered at the site of a Roman temple near the Syrian border. The ancient relief was discovered in a supporting wall of a medieval Christian monastery.
"It's clearly a god, but at the moment it's difficult to say who exactly it is," said Michael Blömer, an archaeologist at the University of Muenster in Germany, who is excavating the site. "There are some elements reminiscent of ancient Near Eastern gods, as well, so it might be some very old god from before the Romans." [See Images of the Mysterious Roman God]
The ancient Roman god is a complete mystery; more than a dozen experts contacted by Live Science had no idea who the deity was.
Cultural crossroads
The temple sits on a mountaintop near the modern town of Gaziantep, above the ancient city of Doliche, or Dülük. The area is one of the oldest continuously settled regions on Earth, and for millennia, it was at the crossroads of several different cultures, from the Persians to the Hittites to the Arameans. During the Bronze Age, the city was on the road between Mesopotamia and the ancient Mediterranean.
In 2001, when Blömer's team first began excavating at the site, almost nothing was visible from the surface. Through years of painstaking excavation, the team eventually discovered the ruins of an ancient Bronze Age structure as well as a Roman Era temple dedicated to Jupiter Dolichenus, a Romanized version of the ancient Aramean sky or storm god, who headed the Near Eastern pantheon, Blömer said.
During the second and third centuries A.D., the cult of Jupiter Dolichenus became a global religion likely because many Roman soldiers were recruited from the area where he was worshipped, and those soldiers took their god with them, said Gregory Woolf, a classicist at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland, who was not involved in the excavation.
After the temple was destroyed, medieval Christians built the Mar Solomon monastery on the foundation of the site, and after the Crusades, the site became the burial place of a famous Islamic saint.
Blömer's team was excavating one of the old buttress walls of the Mar Solomon monastery when they discovered the relief, which had been plastered over.
The relief depicted a bearded man rising up out of a palm-type plant while holding the stalk of another. The bottom of the relief contains images of a crescent, a rosette and a star. The top of the relief was broken off but when it was complete it would have stood about the size of a human being.
"It was quite a big surprise when we saw the relief coming out of in this area of the site," Blömer told Live Science.
Unknown deity
The mysterious deity may have been a Roman spin on a local Near Eastern god, and the agricultural elements suggest a connection to fertility. But beyond that, the deity's identity has stumped experts.
The relief shows some elements associated with Mesopotamia. For instance, the rosette at the bottom may be associated with Ishtar, while the crescent moon at the base is a symbol of the moon god Sîn, Nicole Brisch, a Near Eastern studies expert at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark, wrote in an email. (Brisch was not involved in the current excavation.)
"The bottom bits are from the Near East and the top bits are classical," Woolf told Live Science. "He looks to me like he was somebody from a native, very local pantheon." [Images: Ancient Carving of Roman God]
The fact that he is rising out of a plant is reminiscent of the birth myths of some gods, such as the mystery cult god Mithras, who was born from a rock, or the Greek goddess Aphrodite, who was born out of sea foam, Woolf speculated.
Mashup god
Though the gods' identity is a mystery, the hybridization of gods isn't unusual for the time, Woolf said.
"When the dominant style in the area is Greek and Roman, they give their gods a face-lift," Woolf told Live Science.
For instance, the ancient Egyptian gods end up wearing the clothes of Roman legionaries, and ancient Mesopotamian gods, which were typically depicted as "betels" — stones or meteorites — get human faces, Woolf said.
The best chances of identifying this enigmatic deity is to find a similar representation somewhere with an inscription describing who he was, Woolf said. But getting the word out could also help. Sometimes findings get widely disseminated and "someone turns up a little object that they've had in their private collection and say, 'Do you know, I think this is the same person,'" Woolf said.
Supporting wall
While excavating at the ruins, the team uncovered a plastered-over relief buttressing the walls of the Mar Solomon monastery. When the team painstakingly revealed the relief, they were surprised to find a completely unknown Roman deity. (Photo credit: Peter Jülich)
Religious Mashup
The relief depicted a bearded man emerging from a plant or a flower while grasping a stalk. The unknown god may have been one of the sub-deities, or Baals, of the main god of the temple, Jupiter Dolichenus, a Romanized version of the storm god of the local population. The rosette and crescent, and astrological symbols in general, are all associated with Near Eastern religious traditions, whereas the bearded man's face was likely inspired by Roman traditions, said Gregory Woolf, an classicist at St. Andrews Unviersity in Scotland. (Photo credit: Peter Jülich) Jupiter Dolichenus
Jupiter Dolichenus was the head of the Aramean pantheon that got a Roman face lift. Temples and shrines to the deity have been found throughout the Roman empire, all the way to Britain. The Jupiter Dolichenus cult likely went global because soldiers for the Roman Empire were often recruited from the god's native land. Here, a relief of the god, along with the goddess Juno, which is housed at the Neues Museum in Berlin. Jupiter Dolichenus is often depicted holding hand axes. (Photo credit: Marcus Cyron/Wikimedia Commons)
Ολος ο κοσμος αναρωτιεται και θελει να μαθη που στηριζουν την οικονομια τους και κανουν αυτες τις ενεργειες , καθως οπως φαινετε ολα τα μουσεια της ευρωπης και του κοσμου εχουν αυτα τα ελληνικα στοιχεια,και τα εκθετουν (τα εχουνε πουληση).Και στην ιδια την τουρκια βεβαια τα μουσεια της, εχουν τον ελληνικο πολιτισμο (βλ. Κωνταντινουπολη)με ελληνικες επιγραφες και γραμματα, και τον προβαλουν με σκοπο το κερδος.
Ολο αυτο φανερωνη μια καταπατηση,αλλα αυτο δεν μπορει να ειναι συνεχεια ιδιο.
Η ιστορια αλαζη.
Ισως μαλον να εχουν φθαση στο ζενιθ της ιστοριας τους,
Και τωρα ισως πρεπη σιγα σιγα να επιστρεφουν στα σπιτια τους.
Google Translation.
Ancient Greek civilization, from ancient Greek cities which are scattered in the Mediterranean and around, showed the GREEK ELEMENT in the region, for thousands of years now. That now have been violated by the Barbarians, (Turkey, Seljuks, etc.) Who come from the Far East, and have syn and MEDITERRANEAN now, and even diedikoun and this for the fields, make the already charged area, in war fields with unknown consequences for them.
Everybody wonders and wants to students base their economy and make these actions, as well as see all the museums of Europe and the world have these GREEK elements, and exponentially (the have sold) .And in Turkey itself COURSE its museums, have the GREEK culture (see. Kontantinoupoli) with Greek inscriptions and letters, and view for profit.
All this reveals a breach, but this can not be subsequently same.
The story arrogant.
Perhaps Malone have reached the zenith of their history,
And now maybe you should gradually returning to their homes.
Mysterious Roman God Baffles Experts
by Tia Ghose, Staff Writer
βλεπετε τον μακεδονικο ροδακα στο κατω μερος της εικονας
An unknown Roman god was recently unearthed at a sanctuary in southeast Turkey. The god, who is emerging from a plant, is depicted with both Near Eastern and Roman elements, and may have been a baal, or subdeity, of the temple's major god, Jupiter Dolichenus
Credit: Peter Jülich
View full size image
A sculpture of a mysterious, never-before-seen Roman deity has been unearthed in an ancient temple in Turkey.
The 1st century B.C. relief, of an enigmatic bearded god rising up out of a flower or plant, was discovered at the site of a Roman temple near the Syrian border. The ancient relief was discovered in a supporting wall of a medieval Christian monastery.
"It's clearly a god, but at the moment it's difficult to say who exactly it is," said Michael Blömer, an archaeologist at the University of Muenster in Germany, who is excavating the site. "There are some elements reminiscent of ancient Near Eastern gods, as well, so it might be some very old god from before the Romans." [See Images of the Mysterious Roman God]
The ancient Roman god is a complete mystery; more than a dozen experts contacted by Live Science had no idea who the deity was.
Cultural crossroads
The temple sits on a mountaintop near the modern town of Gaziantep, above the ancient city of Doliche, or Dülük. The area is one of the oldest continuously settled regions on Earth, and for millennia, it was at the crossroads of several different cultures, from the Persians to the Hittites to the Arameans. During the Bronze Age, the city was on the road between Mesopotamia and the ancient Mediterranean.
In 2001, when Blömer's team first began excavating at the site, almost nothing was visible from the surface. Through years of painstaking excavation, the team eventually discovered the ruins of an ancient Bronze Age structure as well as a Roman Era temple dedicated to Jupiter Dolichenus, a Romanized version of the ancient Aramean sky or storm god, who headed the Near Eastern pantheon, Blömer said.
During the second and third centuries A.D., the cult of Jupiter Dolichenus became a global religion likely because many Roman soldiers were recruited from the area where he was worshipped, and those soldiers took their god with them, said Gregory Woolf, a classicist at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland, who was not involved in the excavation.
After the temple was destroyed, medieval Christians built the Mar Solomon monastery on the foundation of the site, and after the Crusades, the site became the burial place of a famous Islamic saint.
Blömer's team was excavating one of the old buttress walls of the Mar Solomon monastery when they discovered the relief, which had been plastered over.
The relief depicted a bearded man rising up out of a palm-type plant while holding the stalk of another. The bottom of the relief contains images of a crescent, a rosette and a star. The top of the relief was broken off but when it was complete it would have stood about the size of a human being.
"It was quite a big surprise when we saw the relief coming out of in this area of the site," Blömer told Live Science.
Unknown deity
The mysterious deity may have been a Roman spin on a local Near Eastern god, and the agricultural elements suggest a connection to fertility. But beyond that, the deity's identity has stumped experts.
The relief shows some elements associated with Mesopotamia. For instance, the rosette at the bottom may be associated with Ishtar, while the crescent moon at the base is a symbol of the moon god Sîn, Nicole Brisch, a Near Eastern studies expert at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark, wrote in an email. (Brisch was not involved in the current excavation.)
"The bottom bits are from the Near East and the top bits are classical," Woolf told Live Science. "He looks to me like he was somebody from a native, very local pantheon." [Images: Ancient Carving of Roman God]
The fact that he is rising out of a plant is reminiscent of the birth myths of some gods, such as the mystery cult god Mithras, who was born from a rock, or the Greek goddess Aphrodite, who was born out of sea foam, Woolf speculated.
Mashup god
Though the gods' identity is a mystery, the hybridization of gods isn't unusual for the time, Woolf said.
"When the dominant style in the area is Greek and Roman, they give their gods a face-lift," Woolf told Live Science.
For instance, the ancient Egyptian gods end up wearing the clothes of Roman legionaries, and ancient Mesopotamian gods, which were typically depicted as "betels" — stones or meteorites — get human faces, Woolf said.
The best chances of identifying this enigmatic deity is to find a similar representation somewhere with an inscription describing who he was, Woolf said. But getting the word out could also help. Sometimes findings get widely disseminated and "someone turns up a little object that they've had in their private collection and say, 'Do you know, I think this is the same person,'" Woolf said.
Supporting wall
While excavating at the ruins, the team uncovered a plastered-over relief buttressing the walls of the Mar Solomon monastery. When the team painstakingly revealed the relief, they were surprised to find a completely unknown Roman deity. (Photo credit: Peter Jülich)
Religious Mashup
The relief depicted a bearded man emerging from a plant or a flower while grasping a stalk. The unknown god may have been one of the sub-deities, or Baals, of the main god of the temple, Jupiter Dolichenus, a Romanized version of the storm god of the local population. The rosette and crescent, and astrological symbols in general, are all associated with Near Eastern religious traditions, whereas the bearded man's face was likely inspired by Roman traditions, said Gregory Woolf, an classicist at St. Andrews Unviersity in Scotland. (Photo credit: Peter Jülich) Jupiter Dolichenus
Jupiter Dolichenus was the head of the Aramean pantheon that got a Roman face lift. Temples and shrines to the deity have been found throughout the Roman empire, all the way to Britain. The Jupiter Dolichenus cult likely went global because soldiers for the Roman Empire were often recruited from the god's native land. Here, a relief of the god, along with the goddess Juno, which is housed at the Neues Museum in Berlin. Jupiter Dolichenus is often depicted holding hand axes. (Photo credit: Marcus Cyron/Wikimedia Commons)
